Sunday, February 14, 2010

Epicurianis vs. Stoicism

Although both Epicureanism and Stoicism both have important ideas to offer and some good practices which should be brought into our everyday lives, I see Stoicism as a philosophy of life avoidance. I do not believe that there is one person ever that has not felt emotions which the Stoic philosophy seems to condemn. There was never a person who did not at least feel a small twinge of regret at having lost something or remorse for having done something because the people that seems to be true stoics merely exists in Hollywood films and ancient myths. I believe that even if you are looking at something in the best of lights, there is no way to block out the feelings which human nature provides. How can everything always happen for the best when so many things are wrong? How can genocide be for the best? How can a plane crash be for the best? How can a war be for the best? It makes no sense to me, because you can rationalize it any way you want but the fact is that bad things happen and they are not always for a good reason. Passion and emotion are important traits that make humans what we are. If we were to erase emotion then we couldn’t say that we are even alive. you might as well be shut up in a cardboard box alone because there would be no point to life if you felt one monotonous emotion all the time, you would just be a sack of flesh, aimlessly wandering wherever you are told duty calls. Epicureanism on the other hand does not suppress emotions but instead promotes happiness and peace of mind. Epicureans do not face every day with the same somber outlook because they only want to be happy. If all people only wanted to be happy, than there would be less anger, less war and less suffering in the world. I believe that people as epicureans would find happiness in other peoples joy and society would become stronger as a whole.

3 comments:

  1. I agree with you said about Epicureanism promoting happiness as well as not facing life with a somber outlook to be happy. However, I don't think that it would make society stronger because I think it would have the opposite effect. Pain is an important part of life because you learn through pain and it helps someone become stronger especially when he or she overcomes it. It may be ideal to have maximum pleasure and no pain to get happiness, but it does affect society in a weaker way.

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  2. I agree with you when you said you didn't beleive that there was never a person that didn't feel some sort of pain. You could try your hardest to hide it or make it go away but at the end of the day you experienced it.

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  3. You write: "How can everything always happen for the best when so many things are wrong?" This suggests that you believe that things don't always happen for the best. That's fine; that's your belief. Stoics just choose to believe otherwise. You can't prove it either way.

    What's important is to try and see how Stoic philosophy grows out of this fundamental belief.

    You oversimplify this when you suggest that Stoics are just emotionless robots. It's not that they don't feel anything. It's just that they believe that feeling sad and getting depressed goes against their core belief that what happens in life as happens for a reason. Whether what happens in life makes me feel happy or sad isn't important. The mere fact that it happened makes it sacred. Thus, my own survival in light of what life throws at me, not my own happiness, is what I concern myself with. I demonstrate that I accept the rationality of life but not giving up, no matter how it makes me feel. The philosophy isn't really about not having emotions, but not letting them dominate your view of life.



    Also, you are oversimplifying Stoicism a bit.

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